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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
"If we don't protect our House of Cards from pea-shooters and slight breezes, the whole thing could come crashing down and everyone would see it for what it is!" -
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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!
by Kulotti79 inhello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??
and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.
lol.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
The interesting thing is that I've told the elder and his wife who are the study conductors that I'm a gay man right at the start, I thought that would difenatly end it before it even started. But, they continue to text me about meeting for the next study and inviting me to the meetings at the Kingdom Hall.
Of course they haven't dropped you.They WON'T drop you because they
probablyreally believe they can fix you from being gay. They may have some sisters in mind to get you married to after your sunk into the cult. I've known the type of JWs that would already be bragging about how they've gotten you straightened out by "the truth".This elder and his wife WILL drop you if you start asking the wrong questions. If you're gay, they think they can fix you. If you have a brain that thinks critically, they can't fix that.
for some reason im just drawn to this perticular sect. Maybe because it's different. Some of you may think I'm crazy, oh well, that's me! 😊
WT has well over a hundred years of experience in finding ways to appeal to people and lure them in:
- The love-bombing where you first visit the hall and seem to have all these new friends will later turn into people who find reasons to pick you apart for not dressing just right, underlining your WT, etc.
- You've probably been given lots of commendation on how smart you are, such a good student. The stuff you find interesting now? Very soon you'll find the material tiresomely repetitive because most of the material has a recycle time of 6 mo. to 2 yrs. The message that you're so smart and making such great progress will be replaced with the message that you aren't doing enough.
- And now they probably seem very tolerant and accepting, but since you've already outed yourself as being gay, you will always be "suspect". You won't be able to be alone with a guy because you are/were gay. You won't be able to be alone with a woman (other than your wife) because you're a guy that had lived an immoral lifestyle. You will hear lots and lots of bashing.
And WELCOME!
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Book study next week... was the Mosaic Law perfect?
by StarTrekAngel inbefore i get the "no it was not, because god does not exist and this is a writing of man", i am directing this discussion to those that either still believe, or need as many tools as possible to talk to a family member still in.. the purpose of my posting is to discuss what i believe to be a mistake on this book or, in the other hand, be corrected if i am not getting the entire picture.. in the book, chapter 19 "god's wisdon in a sacred secret", paragraph 10, it reads.... 10 second, the law thoroughly demonstrated mankinds need for a ransom.
a perfect law, it exposed the inability of sinful humans to adhere to it fully.
compare this with hebrews 7:11-12. jesus a priest like melchizedek11now if perfection was through the levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the people received the law), what further need was there for another priest to arise according to the order of melchizedek, and not be designated according to the order of aaron?
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
"Um, you're telling me that a guy in a dress has to slaughter me and burn me in a fire to make a happifying odor for an invisible, omnipotent master in the sky? Do I have the option of respectfully declining this offer?"
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Trashed WT's found in Dr.s' waiting room Friday. Do you trash literature you find?
by Wasanelder Once intook the magazines in the waiting room and dumped them in the trash.
was a great feeling.
to think many witnoids wont dare throw out the surplus magazines they have in stacks around the house is amazing.
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The stuff I've seen was already nearly trashed: tracts in the apartment building foyer, magazines blowing around in the street. In each case, I put them out of their misery and put the litteratrash in its place... dumpster. -
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Why are JW talks & publications never uplifting?
by thedepressedsoul ini was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!
i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.
they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Here's a couple opinions I developed from working in the WT sausage factory:
There were plenty of times that the elders and speakers were told to be uplifting and encouraging. But most of the time it was things like, "Look what good things you've done before based on your faith and obedience... now do more!" "Listen as I tell you how miserable you would be if it weren't for your faith and obedience to WT and its teachings." "Yes we're imperfect and deserve destruction, but Jehovah loves us anyway and will save us... if we just do a little more." It's like a toxic, abusive relationship where we're beaten savagely, but keep coming back because they tell us they love us.
I think most of us relate to reading WT litteratrash and getting the feeling that everything we do and think is wrong, and there is so much more we need to do to be worthy of anything. But I've certainly encountered plenty of the WT leadership that read and hear the exact same stuff, but come away with the feeling that everything they do and think is right. I even told my parents that when I would read things Jesus said in the bible, I would feel like I have a lot to work on. But having known the GB, I reached the conclusion that these guys read the Bible and got the feeling, "Hey, I'm Jesus' brother. I can nibble a cracker and sip some wine, so I must be anointed. And since I'm anointed, everyone else should shut-up and listen to me!"
And I told my parents I wouldn't buy a car from any of the new GB members. Here we are, worried if we're worthy to survive and have the privilege to dig graves after armageddon. Meanwhile, these guys are completely unworried and fully confident that they will be whisked up to heaven to sit on golden thrones and decide who of the rest of us will live or die.
So the stuff that we read as JWs wasn't uplifting, but it is all very uplifting to the GB... who somehow manage to keep coming up with new interpretation of scripture that makes themselves even more important, all the freakin' time!
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At the meeting ... Ugh
by cappytan inat least i have this forum.
is there a shorthand for referring to this website?
saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
my COBE just turned around and looked right at me and gave me a big old wink. ...
They're totally going to "encourage" me to apply. *facepalm*
That, or maybe he just thinks you're lookin' super sharp tonight!
BTW, I sent you a PM
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Thought I would introduce myself
by WateredDown ini have read the site with great interest over the last few weeks.
some interesting stuff thats for sure.. i have left the jehovah's witnesses (was almost going to say the 'truth') for some time now.
i was one of the lucky ones that was baptised then faded, no humiliating disfellowshipping but nonetheless was very hard to get myself out.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Hello and welcome!
Seriously in the Western world how long have they actually got?
It should have ended in 1975.
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TO THE STUPID ATHEISTS:
by atheist_R_stupid inbeing that this is not "ex jws" and in fact, more driven by atheists talking a bunch of crap, im not even going to address you people like you know anything about jws because you dont.
nor am i going to assume you know the bible because none of you do.. and yes, im speaking down at you all because you men have actually went out your way to make a site to speak down at an entire group of people.
yet i bet you cant even handle a single uswer talking down at you, like you talk down about jws can you?.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
I got the feeling that ARS was a young adolescent who just intentionally came here to throw dirt, his intent wasn't for any real discussion or debate.
Finkelstein, are you pondering what I'm pondering? I think this riddle has been solved:
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Hi everyone, this is my first post.
by John Aquila inhey everyone, this is my first post.
i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..
it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Welcome!
Isn't amazing how a person can simply ask a few questions and "life-long friends" and even "adoring spouses" absolutely turn on you like hungry wolves?
(Ecclesiastes 10:1) Dead flies are what cause the oil of the ointment maker to stink, to bubble forth. [So] a little foolishness does to one who is precious for wisdom and glory.
That pretty much summarizes my history with WT, stinking dead flies.
